Turle Knot
Traditional fly terminal seating around the eye for alignment.
Intermediate · Monofilament / Fluorocarbon
Connection card
Turle Knot
For line → hook.
This card does not say how strong the knot is. A retention figure comes from a bench, in one material, at one diameter, tied by somebody who ties it all day — and the line in your hand is none of those. What it does tell you is whether the thing you have just tied is the thing the record describes.
What this plate is telling you
Traditional fly terminal seating around the eye for alignment.
Save this as a picture and it works with a dead signal and a nearly dead battery, which is when a joint is most often tied badly. The rest of this page — the steps, the seating sequence, the failure modes and the bench — is for the evening before.
Before you start
- ·For flies with a turned-up or turned-down eye. On a straight eye, use another knot such as a Davy or a clinch.
- ·Leave several inches of tag, about 10 cm (4 in), for the loop and the double overhand.
- ·Make the loop a little larger than the fly. The whole fly passes through it before the final pull.
- ·The knot closes around the fly's head behind the eye, so the tippet leaves the eye in line with the shank.
Step 1 of 4. Thread the fly onto the tippet and slide it well up the line, leaving several inches of tag, about 10 cm (4 in), to tie with. Check the fly has a turned-up or turned-down eye.
No drawing of this exact knot yet. The written steps are the reference.
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01
Thread the fly onto the tippet and slide it well up the line, leaving several inches of tag, about 10 cm (4 in), to tie with. Check the fly has a turned-up or turned-down eye.
The fly slides freely on the tippet, well clear of the tag, and its eye is bent up or down from the shank.
Starting on a fly with a straight eye. You can see the eye in line with the shank, and the Turle is meant for turned eyes.
Fix: Use a different knot for straight-eye flies, such as a Davy or a clinch.
Why: The Turle's loop closes around the fly's head behind the eye, so the tippet comes out of the eye in line with the shank. A turned eye leaves room for that.
- No loop formed to collar the eye — You cannot Turle without the loop. The loop around the standing part is the collar.
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Tying procedure — Turle Knot
- Diagram in reviewA drawing of the Turle Knot itself is being made. Until then, follow the written steps.
Step 01 / 4
Thread the fly onto the tippet and slide it well up the line, leaving several inches of tag, about 10 cm (4 in), to tie with. Check the fly has a turned-up or turned-down eye.
You should now see: The fly slides freely on the tippet, well clear of the tag, and its eye is bent up or down from the shank.
If it goes wrong: Starting on a fly with a straight eye. You can see the eye in line with the shank, and the Turle is meant for turned eyes.
Fix: Use a different knot for straight-eye flies, such as a Davy or a clinch.
Why: The Turle's loop closes around the fly's head behind the eye, so the tippet comes out of the eye in line with the shank. A turned eye leaves room for that.
If wrong: No loop formed to collar the eye — You cannot Turle without the loop.
- Diagram in reviewA drawing of the Turle Knot itself is being made. Until then, follow the written steps.
Step 02 / 4
Double the tag back along the tippet toward the fly, then bring the tag behind and over the doubled line to make a loop.
You should now see: An open loop in the doubled line, large enough for the whole fly to pass through later.
If it goes wrong: Making the loop too small, or crossing the tag in front first instead of behind, so the overhand in step 3 twists and the loop will not open over the fly.
Fix: Undo the tag and form the loop again, behind and then over, a little larger than the fly.
Why: This loop is the part that goes over the fly and grips its head, so its size decides whether the fly can pass through.
If wrong: Collar sitting mid-shank instead of the eye — Fly cocks off-axis.
- Diagram in reviewA drawing of the Turle Knot itself is being made. Until then, follow the written steps.
Step 03 / 4
Pass the tag through the loop twice to tie a double overhand knot, and tighten that overhand while leaving the large loop open.
You should now see: A small, tight double overhand knot on the tippet, with the large loop still open and able to slide.
If it goes wrong: Passing the tag through only once, or pulling the loop closed while tightening the overhand, which leaves no loop to put over the fly.
Fix: If the overhand has only one pass, undo it and add the second. If the loop has closed, slide the knot back along the tippet to open it.
Why: NetKnots shows the Improved Turle with a double overhand. The second pass gives the knot more grip on the tippet than a single overhand.
If wrong: Incomplete cinch on a ring eye — The knot rolls and the fly fishes off-axis.
- Diagram in reviewA drawing of the Turle Knot itself is being made. Until then, follow the written steps.
Step 04 / 4
Slip the loop over the fly so it sits behind the eye, then pull the tippet to draw the knot tight against the eye. Trim the tag.
You should now see: The knot sits behind the eye around the fly's head, and the tippet comes out through the eye in line with the hook shank.
If it goes wrong: Pulling tight before the loop is fully behind the eye. The knot sets on the front of the eye and the fly hangs at an angle.
Fix: If the knot has set on the eye rather than behind it, cut it off and tie again, checking the loop position before the final pull.
Why: Seated behind the eye, the pull comes straight down the shank, which keeps the fly riding level.
Watch the tie
Turle Knot Tying Instructions - RIO ProductsInTheRiffle · Opens on YouTubeExternal video from a creator we follow — not produced by us. Nothing on this page loads from YouTube until you follow the link.
Seating sequence — where failures are born
The step list compresses the finish. Run these phases in order, one at a time.
01 Moisten
Wet the structure before any load reaches it.
Zero. Nothing tightens yet.
02 Load
Take up slack slowly until the wraps begin to gather.
Light and even — both ends moving together.
03 Dress
Watch the wraps stack in order; stop and back off if any cross.
Hold, do not pull. Correction happens here or not at all.
04 Set
One continuous pull to full seat — no sawing, no jerks.
Firm, single direction, standing line against the terminal end.
05 Trim
Cut the tag square, leaving a short stub proud of the knot.
None. Never trim under load.
Finished structure — what correct looks like
No drawing of this exact knot yet. The written steps are the reference.
- ·Terminal wrap stack at eye or along shank
- ·Fully seated to eye or shank
- ·Tag exits clean and short
- ·Even wraps, no crossings
Verify before you load it
Every line is pass or fail. One fail means retie — do not load a knot you argued with.
- 01Terminal wrap stack at eye or along shank
- 02Fully seated to eye or shank
- 03Tag exits clean and short
- 04Even wraps, no crossings
- 05None
- 06turle
Field notes — dark, cold, gloves
- ·Retie by feel first, light second — the seat is a tactile event, not a visual one.
- ·Gloves off for the dress phase. Fabric hides a crossing wrap.
- ·Wrong twice in a row means the material or the hardware is fighting you. Change one, not your technique.
Turle Knot — finished-state checks, on the shared reference layout
When this family fails, it fails as these. The recovered end still outranks the name.
Fine tippet at the eye, or fly-line to leader with a tube or nail.
- !Hitch path around the eye instead of through it
- !Single pass where two were the job
- !Gap at the tube or nail on a fly-line join
- !Pulled tight before the loop is behind the eye, so the knot sets on the front of the eye and the fly hangs at an angle
- !Double overhand tied with only one pass, which grips the tippet less
- !Tied to a straight-eye fly, with no room behind the eye for the loop to close
Collar sitting mid-shank instead of the eye
Fly cocks off-axis
A Turle collars the eye; a shank cinch is a different knot · step 02
Incomplete cinch on a ring eye
The knot rolls and the fly fishes off-axis
Ring eyes that will not take a collar need a different terminal · step 03
No loop formed to collar the eye
You cannot Turle without the loop
The loop around the standing part is the collar · step 01
Fly cocks off-axis or knot slips
Check
- ?Fly alignment with tippet
Then
- →Retie
- →Consider Orvis/Davy for pure strength
Finished check failed — Used on a straight-eye where it does not seat
Check
- ?Loop seats behind a down-eye or turned-up eye as intended
- ?Knot draws up cleanly on the eye neck
- ?Fly rides true
Then
- →Retie. Wrong eye type or incomplete seat ruins fly tracking.
Collar sitting mid-shank instead of the eye
Check
- ?Fly cocks off-axis
- ?Inspect step 02
Then
- →Retie. Do not dress a defective structure and call it seated.
Incomplete cinch on a ring eye
Check
- ?The knot rolls and the fly fishes off-axis
- ?Inspect step 03
Then
- →Retie. Do not dress a defective structure and call it seated.
No loop formed to collar the eye
Check
- ?You cannot Turle without the loop
- ?Inspect step 01
Then
- →Retie. Do not dress a defective structure and call it seated.
Same failure class, different geometry. Open the plates — Diagnose still starts from the symptom.
Get it right with everything in your favour0/5 clean
Good light, dry hands, a table. Until the sequence is automatic here there is nothing for the harder rungs to test — you would only be learning that difficult conditions are difficult, which you already knew.
How · Tie it, check it against the list, log it. Five clean and the ladder opens.
Nothing marked. Log it clean, or mark what happened first.
Not ideal for
- ×Maximum strength critical tippet (modern compact knots often preferred)
- ×Braid
Strength, and where the number comes from
Not established
No published break test; the knot is chosen for fly alignment and no publisher states what it costs in strength.
Percentages come from published tests on their own line, their own knot-tyer and their own pull rate. Yours is a different system. Treat a figure as a reason to test, not as a result you already have.
- NetKnots — Turle Knot
- FishingKnots.com strength database (Turle band)
Recovered from the historical MODEL_SOURCES registry.
- Hook the Horizon — Turle Knot
Recovered from the same record’s historical Hook the Horizon resource URL.
Record reviewed 2026-08-13
Vetted references
- Turle Knot
Hook the Horizon
- Turle Knot Tying Instructions - RIO Products
InTheRiffle
Check the finished knot against what correct looks like before you load it.