Turle Knot
Constriction · Wrap stack
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Finished structure
No drawing of this exact knot yet. The written steps are the reference.
Turle Knot — finished-state checks, on the shared reference layout
When this family fails, it fails as these. The recovered end still outranks the name.
Fine tippet at the eye, or fly-line to leader with a tube or nail.
- !Hitch path around the eye instead of through it
- !Single pass where two were the job
- !Gap at the tube or nail on a fly-line join
- !Pulled tight before the loop is behind the eye, so the knot sets on the front of the eye and the fly hangs at an angle
- !Double overhand tied with only one pass, which grips the tippet less
- !Tied to a straight-eye fly, with no room behind the eye for the loop to close
Collar sitting mid-shank instead of the eye
Fly cocks off-axis
A Turle collars the eye; a shank cinch is a different knot · step 02
Incomplete cinch on a ring eye
The knot rolls and the fly fishes off-axis
Ring eyes that will not take a collar need a different terminal · step 03
No loop formed to collar the eye
You cannot Turle without the loop
The loop around the standing part is the collar · step 01
Fly cocks off-axis or knot slips
Check
- ?Fly alignment with tippet
Then
- →Retie
- →Consider Orvis/Davy for pure strength
Finished check failed — Used on a straight-eye where it does not seat
Check
- ?Loop seats behind a down-eye or turned-up eye as intended
- ?Knot draws up cleanly on the eye neck
- ?Fly rides true
Then
- →Retie. Wrong eye type or incomplete seat ruins fly tracking.
Collar sitting mid-shank instead of the eye
Check
- ?Fly cocks off-axis
- ?Inspect step 02
Then
- →Retie. Do not dress a defective structure and call it seated.
Incomplete cinch on a ring eye
Check
- ?The knot rolls and the fly fishes off-axis
- ?Inspect step 03
Then
- →Retie. Do not dress a defective structure and call it seated.
No loop formed to collar the eye
Check
- ?You cannot Turle without the loop
- ?Inspect step 01
Then
- →Retie. Do not dress a defective structure and call it seated.
Same failure class, different geometry. Open the plates — Diagnose still starts from the symptom.
What holds it
- ·The eye is hardware. The knot is an open tangle around that eye. Ends stay ends.
- ·Seating (wet set, even wraps, tag orientation) is the mechanical record already on the knot. Theory adds no extra rating.
What topology does not predict
- ·Trefoil / unknot classification does not apply to a Palomar or clinch.
- ·Fluoro glaze, pigtail slip and nick-at-the-guides are forensic, not topological.
- ·No strength percentage is computed here.
Not for
- ·A free-swing lure loop — use a non-slip loop family
- ·Using an invariant as a reason to keep a glazed terminal
- ·Maximum strength critical tippet (modern compact knots often preferred)
- ·Braid
Same pattern, different job
No sourced twin among these knots. Related knots stay on the Library card.
- Knot — practical vs mathematical (Wikipedia) — Closed-curve knot theory ignores friction. Practical knots are classified by function.
- Patil et al. — Topological mechanics of knots and tangles (Science, 2020) — Lab rods: simple topological counts correlate with stability. Not a field rating table.
- NetKnots — Turle Knot
- FishingKnots.com strength database (Turle band) — Recovered from the historical MODEL_SOURCES registry.
- Hook the Horizon — Turle Knot — Recovered from the same record’s historical Hook the Horizon resource URL.
- InTheRiffle — Turle Knot Tying Instructions - RIO Products — Cited tying video already attached to this record.